Editors Note: Bearded Gentlemen Music is starting a podcast. The idea behind the B.G.M. Podcast will be to randomly get staff members together to chat about whatever is happening in the world of music or just anything that the staff members at B.G.M. feel like ranting about in general. New episodes should be appearing with a somewhat regular cadence from now on. The show will be hosted by Cleveland’s own Mike Scherf with new staff members and possibly musical guests contributing to the discussion on every episode. We here at B.G.M are excited for our new adventure in the podcasting world, hopefully you enjoy listening to it as much as Mike enjoyed producing it. Thanks!  – Jon


This week on the B.G.M. Podcast, Mike Scherf and Kendon Luscher discuss all things Wavves and Cloud Nothings.

Wavves and Cloud Nothings Collaboration Earlier this year, Wavves and Cloud Nothings collaborated on No Life for Me, an album that Mike argues is Wavves featuring vocals from Cloud Nothings’ and not a true fifty/fifty artistic split. Kendon disagrees, saying Baldi tempers the album into something more interesting than Wavves has released since their breakthrough 2010 album King of the Beach. They both agree that album was Wavves’ creative highpoint, and the band has run out of ideas since then. This is most evident on Wavves’ most recent release, V. In a year that seems like it would be a victory for the band, these two albums have instead shown the gap that has risen between the Cloud Nothings and Wavves.

In the time since King of the Beach was released, Cloud Nothings have risen from what Kendon describes as terrible bedroom pop to true artistic triumph. In that time, Baldi has shed some of his more annoying vocal ticks and simplistic instrumentation and has become one of the best vocalist in indie-punk with one of the best backing bands as well. With it has come a greater emphasis on song writing and lyrical depth. Seemingly, these are two bands going in opposite directions.

Mike talks about how good Cloud Nothings are live, but admits he’s only seen them in their hometown of Cleveland so the show experience may not be the same as elsewhere. Still, he points out that many of the songs have longer instrumental sequences that lend themselves well to live performances.

Conversely, Kendon shares the story of when he overcame a bad cold to go see Wavves play in Buffalo a little after the release of King of the Beach. He went in expecting to become best friends with the band, but left disappointed. The difference in attitudes toward each band’s own music highlights the difference in approach between the bands. – Kendon

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Mike Scherf

A writerly writer guy who writes about music, basketball and writing. He now writes here, but has written other places too. He also writes for a big fancy company as his 9-5. Writing, writing, writing. If you want to read his basketball writing (or listen to his podcasting, which isn’t writing but you know).